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CF8 monitor doesn't run on CF8 Standard, or any 6 or 7. What to do?

I'm surprised to still see people lament when they learn that CF8's server monitor does not run on CF8 Standard, or that it doesn't run at all against CF 6 or 7. My surprise is that their comments often make no mention of being aware of alternatives. On one list, someone said they might even be willing to pay double CF Standard's price to get monitoring in Standard. They just didn't like paying 6 times more (for Enterprise).

Well here's the thing: you can indeed get CF server monitoring, whether added to CF8 or made available in CF 6 or 7, and for far less than even double the cost of CF Standard. Some of you know where I'm going, but in case it needs to be said...

Check out FusionReactor and SeeFusion, both tools that I've written about before (see the "related entries" links at the bottom of this entry.)

Both these tools not only run on 8 (any edition), but they run on 7 and 6 as well, which CF 8's monitor does not. Further, FusionReactor can monitor not just CF but also any J2EE servers or app (including LiveCycle Data Services, for instance), and SeeFusion has a sister product, SeeJava, that can do this as well.

I've been a huge fan of both tools for a couple of years. No, they're not identical to CF8's monitor, and CF 8's monitor has access to a lot of information that those tools don't (for now, though they could be modified to access it as well, via the Admin API if running on CF8 Enterprise). But even until then there are features each of them has that CF's monitor doesn't, and vice versa.

I know some instead want Adobe to offer the monitor somehow to those on Standard, whether at some price or in some new edition. The chances of that seem seem pretty slim for now, though certainly interested folks should make their concern known. And certainly, it's worth noting that one can run the CF8 monitor on the Developer edition.

But some rightly point out that they want CF server monitoring in production and they can't use Adobe's on CF8 standard (or on 6 or 7). (And they're asking for more than just monitors to tell if the server's up or down, etc. Sure there are plenty of tools to tell that, but they want real insight into the processing of requests, threads, queries and more, which only these tools can do.)

I just want to make sure those folks know there are indeed good, professionally managed alternatives to get that on CF8 standard and earlier versions of CF, and those options are at low costs and come with free trials. (Same goes for step debugging. While the new debugger in CF8 works only with 8, FusionDebug, from the same company that makes FusionReactor, works in 6, 7, and 8.)

As I wrote before, I don't feel that the availability of the CF8 monitor (or debugger) diminishes the value of the third party tools for those on CF8. Keep an eye on the monitoring category here in my blog as I'll continue to write more about all 3 monitors in the future. They each have their strengths and their place.

Comments
Good piece as always Charlie and yes I agree FusionReactor and SeeFusion both still have a place even with CF8 Enterprise server monitoring. I have a client with CF 8 Enterprise but they still want to use SeeFusion to monitor their production servers. They find the SeeFusion dashboard far more convenient when monitoring multiple servers, particularly the drill-down a single system.
# Posted By Mike Brunt | 9/1/07 7:31 PM
Hey Mike, thanks for your feedback.

As for the dashboard, to be fair, CF8 does indeed have the Multiserver monitor (a separate choice from within the CF Admin, so some may miss it--I realize you may know of it and still find some prefer the SF dashboard.)

We should note that FusionReactor has one, too. All 3 allow drill down to individual servers, but FusionReactor does allow grouping of servers in the dashboard (any way one wants, such as "all cf servers", or "all servers on a given physical server", or "all servers with high quality of servers", etc.) which can be nice when you have a lot of them. I've not seen a means to do that in SF or CF8.
# Posted By Charlie Arehart | 9/1/07 11:32 PM
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