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Making the move to CFEclipse from HomeSite+/Drewamweaver. Care to join me?

If you've noticed, I've recently started doing a spate of entries on CFEclipse.

Some of you know me as one of the old-line "dinosaurs" who have been long-time fans of CF Studio and its "son" HomeSite+. I've been using them for 10 years, and have in fact continued to be an ardent supporter of helping folks move from CF Studio to HomeSite+ the past few years.

I've also used Dreamweaver on occasion, because it offers some useful features that HS+ does not have (especially for web service and CFC exploring, to name just a couple).

Welcome to the revolution

But there's so much goodness in CFE and Eclipse in general (including most of the things in the other common CFML editors) that I think it's time we old-line folks faced the music and "got with the program".

Of course, no one will force you, and I do understand the challenges you may face (or the concerns you may have). I just want to do what I can to help, including sharing here over time various discoveries and tips (and traps) as I make the transition. But we're not alone--and I'm clearly not being any sort of a pioneer. Plenty have already made the journey.

Indeed, that's one of the main reasons I created the recent list of bloggers who have already written (and most who continue to write) about CFEclipse. I want to help folks learn from those who've travelled the road before us, as well as to hear both the arguments for and against it.

But I don't like CFEclipse because of "x"

There are certainly many who are still holding out, arguing for why they don't care for it. In fact, to address that, Brian Kotek just last week did an entry on "CFEclipse: Pros, Cons, and Misconceptions".

Join me on the journey

I've had to use Eclipse and CFEclipse for the past few months as I have been working with FusionDebug and the new CF8 debugger, both interactive step debuggers for CFML, and both based on Eclipse.

I've only learned the bare minimum I needed about Eclipse (and those I didn't *need* CFEclipse to work with the debuggers, I did install it). I still edited my code in HS+ and just used Eclipse/CFeclipse to do debugging, and I have reminded people of that whenever I showed off or wrote about the debuggers. There are plenty of people still preferring either HS+ or DW (or some other editor).

But Adobe is clearly behind Eclipse as a platform for code editing (witness FlexBuilder, and the new Eclipse-based debugger in CF8). They're not turning their back on DW, but clearly CF developers are getting more and more built-into Eclipse, both from them and from others.

And many in the CFML community are clearly behind CFE. I think we'll only see things get better and better, and I plan to do my part to help folks like us make the transition. So while I won't claim to be a pioneer, I do offer my services as a guide. Care to join me?

Comments
Hi Charlie,

I thought you might find a post I did on converting HomeSite+ snippets to CFEclipse snippets useful. I was a big snippet user in HomeSite and really wanted them in Eclipse before I converted over.

http://www.brooks-bi...
# Posted By Rob Brooks-Bilson | 7/12/07 4:16 PM
Well, that's it. If you can learn CFEclipse, I'll have to learn OO :)
# Posted By Chrisitan Ready | 7/12/07 4:16 PM
I'm trying to think of the last time I used Homesite... It would probably be fun to install it and see how much I've forgotten!

For all you CFEclipse newbies :)

CFEclipse wiki (home to lots of good info!): http://trac.cfeclips...
Mailing list: http://groups.google...
Interactive tutorials: http://cfeclipse.org...

Problems? Think you've found a bug? First check out the open bugs:
http://trac.cfeclips...cfeclipse/search" target="_blank">http://trac.cfeclips...

And remember to search the mailing list!

I look forward to reading about your experience! CFEclipse rocks!
# Posted By Jim Priest | 7/12/07 5:33 PM
@Rob: thanks for sharing. You know it's funny, I know that snippets are a huge thing for some, but honestly I never use them. Even in all the years of using CFS/HS+. Can't explain it. It's certainly not been one of the sticking points for moving for me, but I know it's been for others, so thanks for sharing.

@Christian: funny you mention that. While I learned OO back when CFMX first made the transition to Java, I just wasn't motivated to get into it using it in CFML either (same with frameworks). Plus my roles the past few years haven't revolved around building new code, so I still just haven't made that transition. Perhaps that will be a future endeavor.

@Jim: thanks for adding those links. I'll note that I already pointed out several of them in other recent blog entries I did, but just as you may not have seen them, so may others, so no problem repeating them.

I'll just say, before people feel compelled to offer any more such helpful links, please do check my other 4 recent entries on CFEclipse resources, using my CFeclipse category in the category pod to the right here. Newcomers may learn new stuff, and old-timers may save adding something already noted.

Still, that's the spirit of the CFE community, and of course the whole CF community. What a great group.
# Posted By Charlie Arehart | 7/12/07 5:58 PM
I'm in the beginning stages of using CFEclipse over HS. What I miss is the CF and HTML toolbars both at the top of the work panel. I also had a custom bar set up in HS that contained commonly used CF tag icons and was available on the right side of my screen. I'll have to look into creating custom toolbars. Is there a plugin for HTML toolbars that will intermingle with the CF toolbars in the CFML perspective?
# Posted By Jeff Horne | 7/17/07 6:30 PM
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